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Tokyo Festival2023: Yasutake Shimaji and Tamaki ROY ON Their New Work “Ai-no-te”

2023.10.3

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-What does the body mean to you? I have the impression that you have been moving in mysterious ways since the beginning of your career as a rapper, but what is your interest in the performing arts?

Video from the beginning of his career, 2011

Tamaki: After making “Arika” in 2016, I started to watch a lot of contemporary dance. I also watch performances of overseas dancers in Japan and watch videos. I am interested enough to go to the theater from time to time, putting aside for the moment whether I will perform or not. I sometimes encounter a highly trained body, an exploration of the look in a fashion sense, and elements of theater, etc., all highly combined.

But in the first place, I started out creating things that were created on the premise of being reproduced, that is, sound sources, and since I began my creative process under the tutelage of these sources, I have a strong orientation toward creating things that can be recorded or that will remain. (Grabbing the coffee cup in front of him) I just like the composition of a single object, but I think Shimaji-san is better at the idea of moving toward the entire space. I am always impressed and learn a lot from him. Still, Mr. Karatsu and Mr. Shimaji tell me that I should give a performance because of my good moves, so I am allowed to do so.

Shimaji:It is true that Tamaki-san put a lot of energy and passion into writing the text this time as well. On the other hand, you put a lot of energy and passion into writing the text.

Tamaki: Basically, I left it up to Shimaji-san. First of all, there is a huge difference in experience.

Shimaji:In my case, I like to create these cups (while holding a cup), but I also like to think (while moving multiple cups on the table) about how to place them, where to position them, when they appear, change places, disappear, and so on. I wonder, I like to feel the “weight (of placing and moving multiple bodies).

Tamaki: So maybe your scale is bigger than mine.

Shimaji: No, I can’t stay away from my body anymore. I think you spend more time away from your body. For example, when you are reading a book, you forget about your body except for the moments when you feel thirsty, need to go to the restroom, or have stiff shoulders, right?

Tamaki: That’s not good, isn’t it?

Shimaji: No, no (laughs). (laughs) On the contrary, even as I am talking, I am aware that my weight is here. I guess I am a person who is pulled by my body. …… (smiling)

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