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He actually doesn’t like dairy products. Ryosuke Sugamata of the patisserie Ryoura makes sweets in his own style.

2024.3.24

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Becoming a pastry chef even if you cannot eat dairy products

Celeina: Did you eat a lot of sweets since you were a child?

Sugamata: Actually, I have disliked dairy products since I was a child. I couldn’t eat any.

Takano: If you mean all of them, then cream is also a dairy product, isn’t it?

Sugamata: Not at all. Cheese is also a no-no, but I conquered butter in my third year of high school.

Takano:Conquered butter! (haha) How did you get over it?

Sugamata: I tried various ways of eating it. I discovered that it tastes like this when melted, or that it tastes good if you put salt on it. I gathered information about the taste little by little and conquered it.

Takano: Do you still have a weakness for whipped cream?

Sugamata: Not at all.

Takano: Fresh cream is the star of sweets, isn’t it?

Sugamata: Milk and other ingredients are commonplace in our daily lives, but when I heat it up to make sweets, the smell of the milk really comes out. That’s already too much for me.

Takano: Wait a minute, is there such a pastry chef?

Celeina:Mr.Sugamata, you are too funny, including your body language. You do taste the portions and other things, don’t you?

Sugamata: I do because it’s my job.

Celeina:Do you eat the food while thinking that it is your job?

Sugamata: I would like to avoid it if possible, but I can’t create the flavor without tasting it. But when I make prototypes, at first I can’t taste anything because I don’t like dairy products. From there, I gradually make it taste like something I can’t eat. Then everyone says it tastes good.

Takano: That kind of reverse sensor has evolved and become very sensitive, and we have become more trusting of taste.

Sugamata: I wonder. (haha)

Celeina: Unexpected and too punchy.

Takano: By making something that Mr. Sugamata can’t eat, you can make something delicious for everyone.

Sugamata:That’s right! That’s how I feel.

Takano: That’s interesting.

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