Filmed and edited in a unique manner, “The Kingdom (or About the House)” captivates with its repetitive scene rehearsals, a departure from the conventional structure of dramatic films. Officially featured in the “Rotterdam International Film Festival 2019 Bright Future section” and “Yamagata International Documentary Film Festival 2019,” it earned recognition from “The Guardian (UK)” and the British Film Institute (BFI) as one of the year’s best.
Beyond its unconventional structure, the film delves into a disconcerting atmosphere within the dynamics of a couple raising a child and another woman. The actors’ performances draw attention to profound issues surrounding “family and the individual” and the complexities of long-term relationships.
We sat down with the film’s director, Natsuka Kusano, who shared insights into the project’s inception and the exploration of themes related to “family and the individual.”
Note: This article includes content related to the film’s themes. Reader discretion is advised.
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During the Planning Phase, My Intention was not to Craft a Film Strictly Rooted in Fiction
-What was the genesis of the project?
Kusano: When my previous feature film, “Antonym” (2014), was released at the Nagoya Cinematheque in 2015, I was talking with Yuji Hirano, the manager at the time, about the films I liked and the direction my production was going. Then he said, “I think you are suited for this grant. If you want, why don’t you submit it?” He introduced me to the grant from the Aichi Arts Center and Aichi Prefectural Museum of Art. So I submitted my project and the grant was approved, and I was able to shoot the film.
-“Domains” takes a different approach from typical narrative films, showcasing a rehearsal process known as ‘Hon-yomi,’ where actors read and explore the script. Was this format of depicting the rehearsal stage with the script initially planned during the project’s conceptualization?”
Kusano: That is not the case. From the start of the project, we did not intend to make a purely fictional film. However, we decided to make the script as a fiction film. So I never thought of making a feature film based on this script, and I still don’t.
-So, this format of film was planned from the conceptualization stage.
Kusano: Most of it was, but when we submitted the proposal, we wanted to show the physical changes of the actors, so we planned to shoot a fictional scene without rehearsal at the very beginning, then rehearse for a few days, and shoot another fictional scene on the last day. However, we did not plan to include the entire rehearsal scene in the film. So it was supposed to be a short film with two fictional parts, but after some twists and turns, it ended up being a film mainly showing the rehearsal scene.
-Ultimately, the film primarily comprised rehearsal scenes. Did the script specify how often the same rehearsal scene would be repeated?
Kusano: Not at all. The script itself was really in the form of a fictional movie scenario.
-So, the plan was to deconstruct the script of a fictional film during the filming stage.
Kusano: Yes, that’s right. At first, we planned to rehearse all the scenes, but for several reasons, we realized that this was impossible. So we picked up a few scenes from the scenario, and when we realized that we could still understand the story, that was the moment when we realized the greatness of Tomoyoshi Takahashi’s composition of the script.
– How did you feel when you first received the first draft from Takahashi?
Kusano: It was too formal (laughs).
– Yes, it was too formal.
Kusano: Certainly, I found his approach to be very meticulous. He possesses a keen sense of structure and composition, and I distinctly recall being appreciative of the well-crafted work he had delivered. While my strength lies in crafting dialogue, I remember desiring collaboration with him to refine the lines. Despite this, I also recognized his exceptional compositional skills.
Takahashi and I previously collaborated on “Antonym,” during which we extensively worked together on the script. However, this time around, due to my other commitments, I simply presented him with an idea, stating, “Here is the proposal, feel free to write as you see fit,” and there was minimal back-and-forth. I’m truly thankful to Takahashi for crafting such a solid script, and our trusting relationship was rooted in the confidence I had in his ability to deliver exceptional work.
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The Realization that Households Raising Children Possess Remarkable Uniqueness was Truly Surprising
-Excluding the detective at the beginning of the film, there are only three characters in the film: the wife, Nodoka; the husband, Naoto; and Aki, an old friend of the wife’s who comes and goes at the house where they live.
Kusano: From the planning stage, I wanted to depict people who are obsessed with something or someone in particular, which is why we ended up with one couple and a woman from the outside.
There was one more reason: I wanted to make a film that was like a game of cards. In this film, the wife, Nodoka, plays the joker role, and it is up to Naoto or Aki to take Nodoka. It’s like a card game, where the strength of the game changes completely depending on that. This may be the common theme of the film, “territory”.
-I think the most important thing to remember is that the actors’ bodies and speech change as the film is shot, and we, the audience, are watching the process of change.
Kusano: I was most impressed on set. There were clear moments when I felt that we had to end rehearsals here, because if we did any more, it would become a production, not an actual reading. It was a moment when everyone on site felt the same way. However, when I showed the footage I had shot to my co-editor, Keita Suzuo, who was not at the site at all, he told me that he did not understand the changes that I could talk about with such passion. I knew that there were some things that could not be conveyed on film. So I was very particular about how to show them again in the editing.
-I was moved by the changes in the actors during rehearsals, and the fact that all the people on set shared that emotion seemed to resonate with the phrase “dense time” that appears in the play.
Kusano: The phrase “dense time” was not my idea. In order to express the “dense time” that Aki and Nodoka spent together, we decided on a code word that could be understood by both of them, which eventually became a song.
The song was “Kojo no Tsuki” by Rentaro Taki , and I chose it completely out of personal taste. In Nami Iguchi’s “The Love and Adventure of Yukihiko Nishino” (2014), there is a scene where she sings “Song of the Beach,” and I really like that kind of thing, so I wanted to sing a song too.
-You also mentioned earlier that “territory” is the theme of the film. In the play, the time Aki and Nodoka spend together is called “the kingdom. On the other hand, Aki calls Naoto and Nodoka’s house “a kingdom that has its own space,” and says that she felt something dangerous there.
Kusano: When I actually went to visit my friend and her husband’s house, I felt like I was in a cocoon or covered by a curtain. I had the impression of a soft space where temperature and humidity are properly controlled and small creatures are nurtured. I thought that a house where children are raised is very special, and the impact was amazing. So I wanted to depict a house where children are raised in my film.
But in the film, the child dies as a result, so I told the friend, “I’m really sorry. I’m sorry I used them as a motif.
-Aki kills Honoka, the child of Naoto and Nochika, doesn’t she? How do you feel about this development?
Kusano: There was an incident that I was very concerned about, the death of a child, and I thought it would be great if I could incorporate that into the work at the planning stage. At first, it was just a simple reason, but I have been struggling with it for a long time, and I haven’t found the right place to put it down yet. Even though it is a work of fiction, I am wondering if it was really the right thing to do.
Even if it was necessary for the work, I still haven’t found the answer to the question of why the child was killed in the play. As a filmmaker, I was still inexperienced in some areas. So I hope that by releasing the film this time, I will be able to give some answers.